willieH: Hi brother D...
You are completely ignoring a well established understanding of biblical context. The number 12 is the representation of Hebrew government. There are twelve tribes of Israel, that have 12 judges who judge them. This structure was lost to the Hebrew people through their continual falling away from God. At the time when Jesus arrived there was no Hebrew governmental structure other than the religous.
Jesus chose twelve apostles because of the  restucturing of the need for the twelve tribes, one to judge each. So much so that Jesus even said that they (the twelve) would judge the twelve tribes.  This office of judge was the office Judas lost his position from.
You have posted ZERO Scriptural support for these two contentions above (1) JESUS
was about a "restructuring" (2) that JUDAS lost
the "office of judge"...
This again is just an opinion
, one belonging to you... for which you posted no Biblical references to support it... JESUS
did not say that He was "RESTRUCTURING" anything.
GRACE does not operate in the same sense as does the NATURAL... for it is FREE from it... THAT is WHY, when the Pharisees took their "LAW" to Him and questioned His behavior by comparing IT to CHRIST
, ...then [failingly] assaulted Him with IT's [the "law's"] CONDEMNATIONS.
I realize that you will take more scripture out of context and use it to prove an idea you have, so there is no need for me to respond after this. People need to keep the whole bible in mind when claiming such things.
--- in quickly slipping out the back door, be careful not to let it bruise your behind!
Sorry bro, but did you have to go to school to learn how to arrange such a "cop out", or is it just a NATURAL talent?
(just pullin' your leg a bit, bro!
I haven't taken ANY Scripture out of context... and btw... you conveniently have failed to name those which you contend that I have...
No offense bro, ...but your argument is based upon your opinion, not upon the Scriptures... Which happens to be WHY
you have not named any to support your contentions, and which is WHY
you fail to note where I have violated CONTEXT
, in those that I BOTHERED to post in support of my viewpoint...
is a whole other arguement (based upon the words of MEN, not upon the WORD
It is my contention that the ENTIRE Scripture is a "CONTEXT"
for it stands as ONE
, ...and no principle within the WORD
of GOD, is CONFINED by MAN'S theological DEMAND of -- "CONTEXT"!
I am not condeming nor did I ever suggest Judas recive punishment, I just stated what the scripture recorded.
Hmmm... oh really?
Judas betrayed Jesus, comitted suicide, lost his office, both of which were prophesied, and likewise to fulfill prophecy his office as judge was given to another.
Where is this stated bro Dallas?
There is no need for a thirteenth judge/apostle, there are only twelve tribes....
You are getting terribly off-point...
JUDAS was CHOSEN as one of the TWELVE FOUNDATIONAL Apostles -- BY
-- the WORD
... and, the WORD
--- NEVER CHANGES
... so those APPOINTMENTS shall NOT CHANGE
. Irregardless of your opinion, bro.
In the FLESH, JUDAS was ordained to be the adversary of CHRIST
in order to accomplish SALVATION, ...even though APPOINTED by HIM as a FOUNDATIONAL APOSTLE...
In the SPIRIT, JUDAS was APPOINTED a FOUNDATIONAL APOSTLE, and that shall NOT CHANGE, and until you prove otherwise, your contention is just an opinion.