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Judas better if he had not been born?

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WhiteWings:

--- Quote from: Universalist Catholic on March 13, 2010, 06:35:24 AM ---Many Churches use this bible verse to claim Judas is doomed to eternity in hell.
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KJVRev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

To me it sounds like a huge honor to have your name written on a foundation.
Very weird someone that is rotting in hell gets that honor....
Unless the twelfth is the apostle that replaced Judas....?
Is that replacement really one of "...twelve apostles of the Lamb..."?

Universalist Catholic:

--- Quote from: Beloved Servant on March 13, 2010, 06:50:09 AM ---Yeah, Ok, lets dump on Judas, the big bad wolf that took Jesus by surprise. pathetic.

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im not dumping on Judas

jabcat:

--- Quote from: WhiteWings on March 13, 2010, 02:26:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Universalist Catholic on March 13, 2010, 06:35:24 AM ---Many Churches use this bible verse to claim Judas is doomed to eternity in hell.
--- End quote ---
KJVRev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

To me it sounds like a huge honor to have your name written on a foundation.
Very weird someone that is rotting in hell gets that honor....
Unless the twelfth is the apostle that replaced Judas....?
Is that replacement really one of "...twelve apostles of the Lamb..."?

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I still go back to Jesus telling the 12 they'd sit on 12 thrones...Judas was one of the 12 standing there hearing His voice on that day.   :bigGrin:

jabcat:

--- Quote from: Universalist Catholic on March 13, 2010, 03:11:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Beloved Servant on March 13, 2010, 06:50:09 AM ---Yeah, Ok, lets dump on Judas, the big bad wolf that took Jesus by surprise. pathetic.

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im not dumping on Judas

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Hopefully he meant the ones which you were describing?   :dontknow:

jabcat:

--- Quote from: jabcat on March 13, 2010, 07:47:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: WhiteWings on March 13, 2010, 02:26:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Universalist Catholic on March 13, 2010, 06:35:24 AM ---Many Churches use this bible verse to claim Judas is doomed to eternity in hell.
--- End quote ---
KJVRev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

To me it sounds like a huge honor to have your name written on a foundation.
Very weird someone that is rotting in hell gets that honor....
Unless the twelfth is the apostle that replaced Judas....?
Is that replacement really one of "...twelve apostles of the Lamb..."?

--- End quote ---

I still go back to Jesus telling the 12 they'd sit on 12 thrones...Judas was one of the 12 standing there hearing His voice on that day.   :bigGrin:

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So to me, there's more to the story  :thumbsup:

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