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I should admit that hell is one of the reasons for rejecting Christianity

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B_T:
Well, I'm yet a hell believer... But After a search on the internet I got on this thread in a forum... called Ex Christian

http://www.ex-christian.net/index.php?showtopic=7197

Don't misunderstand me ... I'm not advertising this website. It unites people that were Christians but no longer are now... And one of the top reasons for this is hell...
And yes, I still believe in it... Please, don't jump on me because of that...But I admit that hell doctrine is one of the very top reasons ( if not the top one for rejecting Christianity )...
I would like to repost something that touched me very deeply in my heart...


--- Quote ---Nothing could add to the horror of hell, except the presence of its creator, God. While I have life, as long as I draw breath, I shall deny with all my strength, and hate with every drop of my blood, this infinite lie. I would not for my life destroy one star of human hope, but I want it so that when a poor woman rocks the cradle and sings a lullaby to the dimpled darling, she will not be compelled to believe that ninety-nine chances in a hundred she is raising kindling wood for hell.
If there is a God who will damn his children forever, I would rather go to hell than to go to heaven and keep the society of such an infamous tyrant. I make my choice now. I despise that doctrine. It has covered the cheeks of this world with tears. It has polluted the hearts of children, and poisoned the imaginations of men.... What right have you, sir, Mr. clergyman, you, minister of the gospel to stand at the portals of the tomb, at the vestibule of eternity, and fill the future with horror and with fear? I do not believe this doctrine, neither do you. If you did, you could not sleep one moment. Any man who believes it, and has within his breast a decent, throbbing heart, will go insane. A man who believes that doctrine and does not go insane has the heart of a snake and the conscience of a hyena.
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97531:
Hi B_T

This is also one of the main reasons for Agnostics and Atheists.  It goes against all logic.

If you have the time, I recommend reading this Doctrine of Retribution History

Like many things it is something to unlearn but only you can let go.  Believe me it is a huge burden lifted.

There is a study I read on Mystery Babylon depicting the history of the church upto today.  It is not a UR site, PM me and I will give you the link.

Much tradition in Protestant/Reformed churches today originate from the RCC.  Some RCC doctrines have been dropped but others strongly held onto.

Blessings

B_T:
By RCC you mean Roman Catholic Church, right?

Yes, it goes against logic... This is the doctrine that mostly keeps people away from God... Darwin writes about it as "damnable doctrine"...
So there are two options

1. There is no eternal punishment in the lake of fire
2. The lake of fire is misunderstood

Most people ( including the pastor in the Pentecostal church I go ) hold the second option. You choose to be without God, and flames and undying worms are metaphoric picture of your regret for choosing to be without God in eternity.
 

shibboleth:


--- Quote ---Nothing could add to the horror of hell, except the presence of its creator, God. While I have life, as long as I draw breath, I shall deny with all my strength, and hate with every drop of my blood, this infinite lie. I would not for my life destroy one star of human hope, but I want it so that when a poor woman rocks the cradle and sings a lullaby to the dimpled darling, she will not be compelled to believe that ninety-nine chances in a hundred she is raising kindling wood for hell.
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I agree with all the other parts of this paper too. But, the loving mother versus unloving god really gave me a mind picture of god I hadn't really looked at before. Well, I had, but just the way this was worded gave me food for thought.

You are among friends,B_T. The depression and suicidal tendecies I suffered were because of the hell doctrine. In 2005, after many months of study, I woke up one morning and knew that God would never send any of his creation to hellfire. Hang in there, you are here for a reason and God is showing you doubts about hell because He wants you to keep asking, searching and seeking. Tentmaker's is a good place to come if you want answers/color]

97531:

--- Quote from: B_T on August 09, 2007, 10:23:56 PM ---So there are two options

1. There is no eternal punishment in the lake of fire
2. The lake of fire is misunderstood

Most people ( including the pastor in the Pentecostal church I go ) hold the second option. You choose to be without God, and flames and undying worms are metaphoric picture of your regret for choosing to be without God in eternity.

--- End quote ---

Hell is one of the most misunderstood parts of scripture, the word hell didn't even come into being till the 1500's and anyhow refers to a pit in the ground for storing perishables, prior to refrigeration.

Hell = Gehenna, Sheol, Hades Hinnom is not the same as the Lake of Fire.

Read up in the hell board the links are there all about where this doctrine originated from.

Blessings

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