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2Peter mist of darkness

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thinktank:
My thinking was this mist of darkness is hell or Hades for the dead. But the verse says it is reserved forever. Is this a mistranslation as to the same as the book of revelation, concerning the lake of fire.

Paul L:

--- Quote from: thinktank on November 04, 2012, 01:03:08 AM ---My thinking was this mist of darkness is hell or Hades for the dead. But the verse says it is reserved forever. Is this a mistranslation as to the same as the book of revelation, concerning the lake of fire.

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TT, it's  a mistranslation of the word "for ever" where it appears in the KJ, it is inserted where the Greek texts use aion, translated into English as eon or age.

eaglesway:
hell is a translation sheol 50 some times, Gehenna 13 times (actually most of them are repeats from the gospels of four uses of the word by our Lord). Once, in Jude, of Tartarus (abyss, pit).

Hebrew- Sheol (beyond the horizon, the unknowable, the grave)
Greek- Hades (place of the dead in Greek mythology, and the name of the god of the dead)
Latin-Inferno or infernum (Flames, obviously, place of the dead in Roman cosmology/mythology, intorduction of the idea of torments)
Hel (Norse cosmology/mythology, place of the dead, ruled by the goddess Hel or Hela- introduced into English lore and language by invading Danes and Jutes(Viking conquerors and raiders)
Hell (English, combining all of the baggage of the Greek, Latin, Hel- having NO RELATIONSHIP to Sheol)

The concepts could be applied to Gehenna and the lake of fire- but the word "hell" has nothing to do with the "theon" -purging fire of God(of the lake of fire), "g'hinnom" the garbage dump outside the city (where the wood hay and stubble get consumed)

In My Opinion the lake of fire is a is a holding cell in the presence of God and His holy messengers where darkness is consumed and every hidden thing is brought to the light until every knee bows and every adversary is redeemed :2c:


reFORMer:

--- Quote from: thinktank on November 04, 2012, 01:03:08 AM ---My thinking was this mist of darkness is hell or Hades for the dead. But the verse says it is reserved forever. Is this a mistranslation as to the same as the book of revelation, concerning the lake of fire.

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The Concordant Literal has:  "These are waterless springs, and mists driven by a storm, for whom the gloom of darkness has been kept." 2 Peter 217

There's nothing here about "forever."  There's no form of the word "eon" being used in the original text, which would otherwise be rendered as "for ever" in many versions.  Eon doesn't mean "eternal" anyway.  Eon refers to an age of time.

Additionally, the text refers to, "the gloom of darkness" as what "has been kept."  It's not the men that, "has been kept."  How long this special kind of darkness is kept has not been specified here.

sheila:
Father keeps this...kingdom of darkness as long as it serves as the evil contrast against the

  Kingdom of sons of light...evil is done at night/but we are children of the day

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