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Offline erwan

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why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« on: October 21, 2012, 02:47:25 AM »
why don't they believe in UR?
they should realize that aion means aion ?

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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 07:40:15 AM »
Modern Greek is different than Koine Greek would be my main guess.  That is a good question though.

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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 08:50:03 AM »
Yeah, good question.

But the similarly you could ask yourself why not all Greeks are part of the same denomination.
Why aren't most Jews ET? Ok they don't read the NT but do you think God wouldn't have told them about hel in the 4000 years they had the OT? 
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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 08:58:18 AM »
I think the Greeks have the same problem as all Christians.

The translation of aion is disputed but all Bibles translate that Jesus is the saviour of all mankind.
Every English speaking person knows the meaning of the word 'all'  but when placed in context it changes meaning.
Suddenly the meaning of that simple word isn't so clear anymore.
Similar with age I guess. 
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 05:41:43 PM »
Greeks, like all of us, have pre-conceived notions about many things.
Even when presented with facts, if something is contrary to what we've been told all our life or
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE IS TRUE, we tend to dismiss it.

UR fortunately, doesn't rely solely on the definition of Aion.
Great question tho
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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2012, 10:51:34 PM »
Language is not the primary barrier to receiving truth. When you change your doctrine, you get the boot. Very few changes come from the top down in religious groups. Only a grass-roots awakening that transcends organizational veils causes change.
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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 08:09:51 AM »
I found this an interesting answer to the hell question by a Greek Orthodox.  Read all the way through...very interesting ending.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090405035320AAIDe9q


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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2012, 08:26:45 AM »
why don't they believe in UR?
they should realize that aion means aion ?

I heard that the whole "ET" thing actually crept in from the pagan Greeks. Greek mytholgy was HUGE in ET torment, they didn't even have to read the Bible to believe (hypothetically if ET is true), they didn't need to because their culture already believed in it.

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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2012, 04:37:48 PM »
Eternal torture would have to have come from the pagans because that's the kind of "Gods" they had.
I don't believe one can truly know the character of our loving God and believe He is capable of such atrocities.
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Re: why modern greek don't believe in UR ?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 06:47:01 PM »
Hades came from the Greeks and was primarily a place of darkness. The word morphed from "Haides" which was originally Aionis and Aides (from aidos meaning "unseen"). Tartarus was below Hades and was a special prison for titans and involved torment.

The similarities are striking enough to make you wonder if these mythologies(egyptain, greek, roman) did not come from stories passed down through the ages originating from the children of Noah re-called from pre-flood times.

Inferno came from the Romans and incorporated the idea of flames and torment. It was ruled by Pluto who was also god of time and earth and wealth. Dante took "inferno" and popularized the idea of the devil tormenting souls in worse and worse ways as you went lower and lower into it.

 Hel came from the Norsemen, it was ruled by a female god Hela and was the place for the departed dead who were not warrior heroes, who went to Valhalla.

The English (KJV)took all three and rolled them up into one and translated Sheol- meaning "the unknown"-which came to mean "the grave" among the Hebrews- into Hell, bearing all the mythological baggage of Hades, Inferno and Hel.

Hades (play /ˈheɪdiːz/; from Greek ᾍδης (older form Ἀϝίδης), Hadēs, originally Ἅιδης, Haidēs or Άΐδης, Aidēs (Doric Ἀΐδας Aidas), meaning "the unseen"[1]) was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. The genitive ᾍδου, Haidou, was an elision to denote locality: "[the house/dominion] of Hades". Eventually, the nominative came to designate the abode of the dead.

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