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Mat 24:13 - One of the bible verses that is said to disprove Unversalism

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B_T:
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Does this mean that:

But he that shall not endure unto the end, the same shall not be saved?



Andy:
Maybe it has to do with which gate we enter in. 

The ones who endure to the end in this flesh existance, enter in through the narrow gate.

The ones who don't, enter in through the broad way that leads to distruction.

Just some thoughts,

Peace,
Andy

martincisneros:
One of the biggest problems with interpreting the Scriptures that evangelicals have is that they've created their own Bible in their own theological image rather than simply letting the Bible speak for itself.  In context, Matthew 24:13 is talking about being saved from the false prophets that would arise a couple of verses earlier.  Contextually, it's about surviving sorrow, deception, lawlessness, and you might be able to take Matthew 24:13 as far as to say that it's about surviving all that was about to befall Jerusalem in the next few verses.  Nothing about being sent to Hell for being "weak" is being stated or implied by Matthew 24:13.

studier:

--- Quote from: B_T on July 17, 2008, 11:30:46 AM ---Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Does this mean that:

But he that shall not endure unto the end, the same shall not be saved?

--- End quote ---

They will not be saved, they will go through aionios Kolasis and experience correction for following seductive spirits and false teachers, and their own thoughts. Those who did endure, trust the Holy Spirit, listen to the Good Teacher, and renew their mind to the will of God and will be saved from aionios Kolasis. Not all the time in Scripture where it says, 'saved' or 'salvation' or etc, is it talking about the end result; it is still talking about the journey of life we go through, we all reap what we sow.

Taffy:
Amen Craig.

I have a tendancy to see who the "End "is which explains this to me likewise.

Christ being the Beginning and the END..THE " END " of our FAITH, the salvation of our souls.

Rom 1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;

Christ is the "END" OF OUR PROMISE.

Rom 4:16 Therefore [it is] of faith, that [it might be] by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Again it depends how we perceive this verse

Rom 10:4 For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Hbr 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
 
Being saved is often likened  to being MADE WHOLE, therefore complete in HIM...

Mat 9:21 For 1063 she said 3004 within 1722 herself 1438, If 1437 I may 680 0 but 3440 touch 680 his 846 garment 2440, I shall be whole 4982 .
Mat 9:22 But 1161 Jesus 2424 turned him about 1994 , and 2532 when he saw 1492 her 846, he said 2036 , Daughter 2364, be of good comfort 2293 ; thy 4675 faith 4102 hath made 4982 0 thee 4571 whole 4982 . And 2532 the woman 1135 was made whole 4982 from 575 that 1565 hour .

could for mine be summed up simply with this

Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? 
Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law [be] heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
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