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If Torment is Forever.....
« on: August 18, 2012, 01:12:02 PM »
If Torment is Forever......

Jesus is Alpha, but He is NOT Omega.
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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 01:14:43 PM »
If Torment is Forever......

Behold, I am NOT MAKING ALL THINGS NEW

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2012, 01:17:22 PM »
If Torment is Forever.....

And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."
(Rev 5:13)
NEVER HAPPENS
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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 01:21:50 PM »
If Torment is Forever........

"If I be lifted up I CANNOT DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME!"


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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 01:30:23 PM »
If Torment is Forever.....

If I be lifted up, I MIGHT ONLY DRAW A FEW MEN TO ME!


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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2012, 01:23:00 AM »
If torture is forever...

Jesus has failed, is failing, and will fail.

But...

Jesus has not failed, is not failing, and will not fail.

Therefore...

Torture is NOT forever.
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 08:39:30 AM »
If torture is forever...

While the Good Shepherd saving that one sheep, the wolves raid the pen with the other 99 sheep.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 08:40:43 AM »
If torture is forever...

Abortion clinics are the most effective churches.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 08:49:01 AM »
If torture is forever...

There shall be two folds. (John 10:16)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 08:51:19 AM »
If torture is forever...


God won't be all-in-all
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 08:52:25 AM »
If torture is forever...

The HS is of marginal effect. (Acts 2:17)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 08:53:01 AM »
If torture is forever...

Satan wins.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 08:54:32 AM »
If torture is forever...


Israel won't be saved because of unbelief. (Romans 11:26)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 08:55:32 AM »
If torture is forever...

All creation won't praise God (Rev 5:13)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 08:55:58 AM »
If torture is forever...

Most things will remain old.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2012, 08:57:32 AM »
If torture is forever...

God's is unable to do His pleasure (Isa 46:10)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2012, 08:58:24 AM »
If torture is forever...


The veil won't be destroyed. (Isa 25:7)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 09:00:17 AM »
If torture is forever...

Sodom won't be restored of God's vengance justice. (Ezekiel 16:55)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2012, 09:01:19 AM »
If torture is forever...

Very few decendants of Israel will be justified. (Isa 45:23)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2012, 09:02:25 AM »
If torture is forever...


He won't raise all who have fallen into sin. (Psalm 145:14)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2012, 09:03:23 AM »
If torture is forever...

It did enter His mind to torture with fire. (Jer 32:35)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2012, 09:04:59 AM »
If torture is forever...

His arm will stay hidden. (Isa 52:10)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2012, 09:09:23 AM »
If torture is forever...

God doesn't love His enemies.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2012, 09:10:11 AM »
If torture is forever...

God won't overcome evil with good.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: If Torment is Forever.....
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2012, 09:15:14 AM »
If torture is forever...

Most of humanity wasn't created by God. (
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...