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IceDash

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I don't know how to answer this
« on: March 14, 2010, 05:30:06 AM »
http://members.cox.net/ivanvivian007/OneDied01.html

I think this one pretty tough to break :)

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Re: I don't know how to answer this
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2010, 07:14:32 AM »
 What is the question?
I tried reading that but it all runs together.
Maybe its my eyes. :dontknow:

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Re: I don't know how to answer this
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 12:11:17 PM »
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CONCLUSION.

We could choose a number of different ways to interpret the passage of scripture in 2 Corinthians Chapter five from verse fourteen to fifteen. Whatever one we chose, and they were certainly all valid when compared with the rest of scripture, it was necessary to add words for an accurate understanding. If we left the scripture exactly as it was written in the NAS and the NIV, then we would not be guilty of adding to the scripture portion, but attributing blame to Christ for something He never did.

What do you prefer to do? Add to the scripture portion as the Holy Spirit would give you scripture to interpret scripture? Or leave the scripture translation exactly as it has been done and thereby attribute something to Christ He could never be guilty of?
The HS did also or perhaps only inspire the originals. Is the conclusion of the writer of the article that the work of HS needs to be improved upon? This opens the door to adding lots of doctrinal opinions because the HS didn't inspire what He actually wanted to say....
Turning a translation into a commentary/interpretation.

/edit I do admit things can, and likely are, lost in translation.
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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: I don't know how to answer this
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2010, 05:29:28 PM »
http://members.cox.net/ivanvivian007/OneDied01.html

I think this one pretty tough to break :)

By one man, death entered into the world. THAT one man was Adam the first.

Through one man death was overcome, and all who are in Christ receive life because of this one death.

The secret is in the language of the rest of the context; i.e., "if...in Christ..new creature." "We are baptized into Christ..." There is a procedure that puts us into the likeness of his death, qualified thereby to be in the likeness of his resurrection.[Rom 6]

The answer to the whole thing is to be in Christ. Live in Christ so that " I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God..." [Gal 2:20-21]

THIS is the logos of God; the concept of "Christ in me" so that I am no longer in charge, but have yielded myself to the fact of Christ living in me.[ Col 2:25-27]

Belonging to God as our creator is not sufficient to bring about our reconciliation. We must lose ourselves in Christ, BECAUSE we have already lost ourselves in sin. God was in Christ, Christ is in us, so that ultimately, God will through Christ, be all in all.

 17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.



 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the logos [word] of God;  26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:  27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you..."  [Col 1:25-27]