Hi sis , not ignoring you , just been looking like crazy in how to write this , I stink at writing down my thoughts , as you well know already ..
I love what you have already up and agree ,
But I would love to explain what seems to be a BIG misunderstanding when I agreed with Lastposts , last post up there
9 All ye beasts of the field, come to devour, yea, all ye beasts in the forest.
10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
12 Come ye, say they , I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.
But, in my opinion, he who does evil and he who has allowed both the earthly-minded and the fallen and malevolent spirits to devour the flock by turning to the world and ignoring the danger to others thinking that they need pay heed to what the Lord asks, he will meet with a second death in which he must be purified in a refining fire before he is spiritually fit for his anastasis to occur.
It is yet another warning about, literally, a fate worse than death for those not actively seeking to follow the Lord's bidding which He has made clear over and over again - in my opinion.
Definition. a raising up, rising (e.g. from a seat); a rising from the dead. that of Christ; that of all men at the end of this present age
Ok here we go ,,, this is what the Lord is been showing me , in the scripts ,
I want to go back to Daniels dream first in Dan 7 , those 4 beasts in natures and carnality as [ Kings and Kingdoms ] Daniel watched as the thones were put in place and the Ancient one sat down to judge
in verse 8 -11 all the fire was coming out of Him , God is a consuming Fire in streams this is the the Holy Ghost and fire judments on all mankind
because of What Jesus Christ did at the cross , this was the Holy Ghost and fire baptism that Jesus come to send on the earth in Luke 12 ;49 , this is not a literal fire but the fire of Gods judgments [those fiery trials to test us poured out on all flesh [pentacost [first sign of this after Jesus ressurrection ] and Daniel saw this before as Prophecy having the Spirit of prophecy or the testimony of Jesus Christ in Him declaring this before it happens .I watched until thrones were set up
and the Ancient One, who has lived for endless years, sat down.
His clothes were as white as snow
and the hair on his head was like pure wool.
His throne was fiery flames,
and its wheels were burning fire.
10 A river of fire flowed.
It came from him.
Thousands and thousands served him.
Ten thousand times ten thousand were stationed in front of him.
The court convened,
and the books were opened.11 I continued to watch because of the impressive words that the horn was speaking. I watched until the animal was killed. Its body was destroyed and put into a raging fire. 12 The power of the rest of the animals was taken away, but they were allowed to live for a period of time.
13 In my visions during the night, I saw among the clouds in heaven someone like the Son of Man.[a] He came to the Ancient One, who has lived for endless years, and was presented to him. 14 He was given power, honor, and a kingdom. People from every province, nation, and language were to serve him. His power is an eternal power that will not be taken away. His kingdom will never be destroyed.
Verse 13 and 14 are right now !! and still to this day in verse 11 if you take this inwardly and personally , as the Kingdom of God is within you and you are the temple of the Living God and Judgment begins in the house of God , than you are going to KNOW exactly what I am going to say next
Saul / Paul is going to be my greatest example here to explain what Jesus spoke in parables , Paul not only experienced these things but put plainly just what is happining to us as well
not everyone here will experince salvation here in this life for this short time , just the few chosen out of the world as Saul was and all the prophets and kings etc written in the "books "
now dont get upset , with what I am fixing to say here and just said , only because its a truth spoken not by me , But the WORD OF GOD , all will be saved , but not in this short lifetime of the days of our flesh
Here is what the Lord blessed me to understand , why ?? because I am personally going though the firey trials and the flames of judgments now in my own body of death , as we all are going though , but the Holy Spirit is with us as we endure the chastening of the Lord to be recieved as sons of God , its 1Peter Chapter 4 that proves to me , that salvation , to the saving of ones , mind and heart / soul and the body of death is not delivered to salvation , but is SWALLOWED UP/ devour and destroy . in Victory ,
Paul helped so much in Romans 7 and 8 , to show this proof to me on a personal level
He had the mind of Christ , this is heaven or the realm of being sealed by the Holy Spirit and fire already in Gods presence seated with Christ in heavenly places ,
But Paul offered up even more by saying sin was still dwelling in his flesh , the man of sin was still in there and doing those things in HIS EARTH that does not please GOD [woe unto you earth and sea the devil has come down to you ! ]no longer a threat in your mind and heart its Christ possesion as he rules and regins in power over and with you to keep that wicked one in the lower regions of your body and is burning in that fire of torment after the seals are broken and the trumpets are sounding and the bowels are poured out on the beast , false prophet are found , and he said this also though I give my body to be burned [ over to Christ to devour and destroy by the fires of Gods divine judgements and trials of faith in suffering for the cause of Christ ] and have not love ,
it profits him nothing , he knew !!
1Peter 4 was where I realized the parable and prophecy Spirit of divine Truth explains , its the seed / Word of God falling on the ground to die and make new life / His , being gathered in Christ now , but many as there are 3 examples of how this works in our hearts , as good soil or earth , the meek shall inherit the earth , the troubles of this life and riches cause this seed to be choked out , with tares and must be burned , and the snatchers birds of the air as satan enters their hearts [examples Judas , Anninas and saphariah ] Peter even when he was turned over to satan and sifted as wheat and the Lord said get behind me satan , you are not tasting the things of God but men
a big clue also for me was this , turn one over to satan for the destruction of his flesh that in the DAY of Salvation he might be saved
now to why 1 Peter 4 shows me how easy it is , to loose the peace and joy and abundant Life here and now which is total salvation in Christ , its a 3 part work of being blameless before Christ while we have mortal bodies that are undergoing death , destruction and devouring still as the Fire of Gods Spirit and jealousy is still working to save you to complete maturity in Christ
1 Peter 4
GOD'S WORD Translation (GW)
4 Since Christ has suffered physically, take the same attitude that he had. (A person who has suffered physically no longer sins.) 2 That way you won't be guided by sinful human desires as you live the rest of your lives on earth. Instead, you will be guided by what God wants you to do.
3 You spent enough time in the past doing what unbelievers like to do. You were promiscuous, had sinful desires, got drunk, went to wild parties, and took part in the forbidden worship of false gods. 4 Unbelievers insult you now because they are surprised that you no longer join them in the same excesses of wild living.
5 They will give an account to the one who is ready to judge the living and the dead. 6 After all, the Good News was told to people like that, although they are now dead.
It was told to them so that they could be judged like humans in their earthly lives and live to God in their spiritual lives.
1Pe 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit
God of the Living ! not the dead , its in Christ we are lifted up
7 The end of everything is near. Therefore, practice self-control, and keep your minds clear so that you can pray. 8 Above all, love each other warmly, because love covers many sins. 9 Welcome each other as guests without complaining.
10 Each of you as a good manager must use the gift that God has given you to serve others.
11 Whoever speaks must speak God's words. Whoever serves must serve with the strength God supplies so that in every way God receives glory through Jesus Christ. Glory and power belong to Jesus Christ forever and ever! Amen
Share Christ's Sufferings
15 If you suffer, you shouldn't suffer for being a murderer, thief, criminal, or troublemaker. 16 If you suffer for being a Christian, don't feel ashamed, but praise God for being called that na
17 The time has come for the judgment to begin, and it will begin with God's family. If it starts with us, what will be the end for those who refuse to obey the Good News of God? 18 If it's hard for the person who has God's approval to be saved, what will happen to the godless sinner? 19 Those who suffer because that is God's will for them must entrust themselves to a faithful creator and continue to do what is good.
verse 18 when you have Gods SEAL of approval in your mind , mind of Christ and still be saved is hard pressed !!! salvation , must be the life abundant fully in Christ and few be there that find the strait and narrow path that leads to Life of and IN CHRIST totally
I know Iam not there