willieH: Hi Shawn...
Though you are under no obligation to answer my points, ignoring them only substanciates them concerning you.
It is easy to see that you are attempting to use the "thinktank" method of encapsulating my entire post, avoiding the DETAILED content of it
, ...and with the question which is asked at the end, you cannot see that question #2 of the 3 questions you ask, has already been ANSWERED in the post you respond to!
Here are your questions (separated):
[#1]Have creationists ever considered their interpretation of scripture is inaccurate? [#2] Do you really believe man walked with the dinosaurs? [#3] Don't you think a few of those dinosaurs would have had a few human bones where their stomachs should be? Here is the answer to #2:
SECOND --- There has to be an explanation that aligns the evidence which "seems" representative of a massive amount of TIME, with the Biblical account of time being, 6000 years... For the WORD of God is the TRUTH (above ANY scientific THEORY or CONJECTURE)... and the TRUTH notes that (approx) 6000yrs has taken place in time, since Adam's creation on the 6th "day"...
You purposely IGNORED the point made here... The WORD
of God is TRUTH, certainly ...ABOVE... any conjectures of FINITE men, who in their arrogance call themselves "scientists"...
notes an approximate time frame of 6K years... Science IGNORES this figure because it does not align with their conjectures that the Earth must be OLDER than the WORD
says that it is... Using their LACK of knowledge of the DINOSAURS as a foundational element that they claim, "establishes" their CONJECTURE (because in the end, they/you have no "proof", only speculations)
THIRD --- Science bases its conjectures (theories, hypotheses), upon proximity to ITSELF, which in the end, IS the problem concerning their determinations of the Earth and its "AGE".
IOW, because there appears discrepancies such as strata layers in the earth, dinosaurs, etc... that they use to determine that the stated time frames noted in the HOLY WORD of GOD, are not possibly correct... and therein lies the fault in their FINITE determination of the INFINITE source of the Earth and Universe which they observe. There IS an explanation which brings these (science's view of Millions of years VS 6000 years), but they will not consider it.
You only have proved this statement by the LACK of response to it, below.
(that there IS an explanation, but SCIENCE and its proponents shall NOT LISTEN to it -- they IGNORE it instead, hiding from the TRUTH which says that DEATH ENTERED
this WORLD via the SIN of ADAM)
Also, the WORD notes that DEATH entered (into the CREATION) by Adam's indescretion -- Rom 5:12 -- so prior to Adam's sin... death had no portion within the Creation, having NOT ENTERED. FIRST
This includes the "evidences" such as Dinosaurs which had LIVED, and DIED... and which "evidences" are YET present IN the CREATION, as we speak.
--- Instead of responding to this you have chosen to IGNORE it. Many practice this method concerning the TRUTH
The "bones" of DINOSAURS (evidence of their life and subsequent DEATH
) are found existent within a WORLD (this one) in which GOD says IN HIS WORD
(which YOU IGNORE), that DEATH
entered THIS WORLD
via and upon, the SIN of ADAM -- Rom 5:12SECOND
--- Don't know what kind of "scientist" you are (or aren't), but it doesn't take a "ROCKET SCIENTIST"
...to note that if DEATH entered THIS WORLD, via ADAM's SIN... and indeed there is EVIDENCE of DEATH (human, dinosaur, etc)... found in THIS WORLD, that the DINOSAURS had to have had their existence IN THIS WORLD, in some moment AFTER
the SIN of ADAM.
MORE you IGNORE:
The "Creation" is the "beginning" of the REVELATION of the WORD which was (is, will be) within Him... All that proceeds from Him, has ALWAYS been part of Him, as He does NOT CHANGE!
The word "created" noted in Gen 1:1 can and DOES mean DISPATCHED...
The "Earth" was (is, will be) ETERNALLY present in the Heart of YHVH... but its PHYSICAL presence was yet to be manifest by the Revelation of the WORD within YHVH, which is the maker of ALL things -- John 1:3 -- Col 1:16 -- and therefore, nothing PHYSICAL (including "dinosaurs" which were once living PHYSICAL entities), had yet to "BE".
The book of the REVEALING of the WORD of YHVH (Revelation of JESUS CHRIST), upon IT's "REVEALING" ...notes in concluding that "revelation" that DEATH passes away... and shall no longer be an existent thing...
The WORD does NOT CHANGE -- Heb 13:8 -- James 1:17 -- neither does YHVH -- Mal 3:6... so WHY would DEATH --- of the "DINOSAURS" and other things in a "prior creation" which had to have been produced by the WORD as well (for the WORD is the maker of ALL THINGS that are "made"), ...have existed prior to THIS EARTH, and evidence of their DEATH, survived to be EXISTENT in "this creation" as well?
Is God revisiting DEATH which preceeded in a prior creation? If so, WHY? What REASON exists that He did not "do away" with it in THAT "creation"? Why let another (this) Creation effort fall to DEATH as well?
If the WORD of GOD is LIFE (which it IS) -- John 14:6 -- which also PUTS AWAY DEATH in IT's "revelation" and conclusion -- Rev 21:4 -- Why was it [death] allowed to survive a previous "creation" and extend into this one?
REASON dictates that LIFE conquered DEATH in and ON, this Earth... If the WORD declares that DEATH shall PASS AWAY permanently... why was it "re-allowed" to CONTINUE to exist from a "prior" creation?
That makes absolutely NO SENSE to me. God is REVEALING His WORD in and on THIS Earth... and CHRIST died ONCE (not twice) for ALL. -- Heb 9:26 -- 10:10
The TRUTH is that the WORD of God makes no such statement (of the existence of a "prior creation")... it is nothing but an "imagination", just as is ...the "Big Bang".
And finally you IGNORE this:
No matter who argues the point (from either spiritual or scientific viewpoints)... the FACT remains that GOD's WORD (which notes a 6000 year time frame... is the TRUTH... and somehow, the "ANCIENT evidence" fits within that time frame.
NOW to address your other "2 questions"...QUESTION #1:
[#1]Have creationists ever considered their interpretation of scripture is inaccurate?FIRST
--- The very same question can be asked of "science"...
No matter who is projecting a viewpoint, ...because we are incomplete as far as KNOWLEDGE is concerned... We must ALL in HUMILITY confess that our viewpoint is possibly INCORRECT, INCOMPLETE or otherwise.SECOND
--- Can't speak for you, Shawn (wouldn't think of it), ...but as for ME, ...being a DEVOTED believer in the WORD
of God as "the TRUTH"
... and IT's notation of a 6K year time frame, requires within that belief, that the TRUTH
is that the Earth and Creation are 6K years old.
REASON is also incorporated in the WORD
... and the TRUTH
my friend, ...is that SCIENCE will not align itself with the WORD
, due to its arrogant, fickle and incomplete position which... within their claim to be SCIENTISTS, ....indeed are amidst exalting their pathetic FINITE and relatively miniscule KNOWLEDGE (accumulated over a few thousand years)... ABOVE the INFINITE and ETERNAL WORD
of God, which notes the WORLD to be 6K years old. THIRD
--- One cannot "sit on the fence"... thinking that Science's deduction which OPPOSES the WORD
, is somehow "aligned" with it. No more than an "agnostic" can truly call him/herself a BELIEVER in God.
Either the WORD
is correct and "the TRUTH".... OR... Science is correct... for the world cannot BE... 6K years old, and at the same time be BILLIONS of years old.
Funny enough (and I will be very curious as to whether or not you respond to this, but):
YOU have made a statement in another post in this thread, which actually helps to conclude WHY and HOW the Earth is INDEED 6K years old, even though it appears to be older. Do you even know what YOU said, that in part, explains the "conundrum"? QUESTION #3:
[#3] Don't you think a few of those dinosaurs would have had a few human bones where their stomachs should be?
Hmmm... Why would you ASSUME that DINOSAURS ate bones? Most modern predators, eat the flesh around the bones, leaving the bones...
Even though you know absolutely NOTHING of the eating habits of DINOSAURS (nor do I), you think to deduce that they consumed their prey WHOLE or in part, and that ELIMATION of things such as BONES was not part of their digestive process. As well, that you know NOTHING of the DIGESTIVE systems of the DINOSAURS means that due to that lack of KNOWLEDGE, their systems might have been capable of DISSOLVING "bones" of which YOU KNOW NOTHING, eh?
I would like to REVISIT and answer straight-up --- your Question #2...
[#2] Do you really believe man walked with the dinosaurs?YES
... Men even today, live amidst predatory animals which are capable of killing and eating them. There are primitive tribes in remote areas which LIVE IN PROXIMITY to and amidst MANY species of animals capable of killing
If you are a believer in God, then you know that God has given MEN intelligence ABOVE all animals... and even though some men will perish in confrontation... MORE animals will perish when the 2 find confrontation.