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HartleyIrvinDamboiseII

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I am looking for articles to print out of How Jesus Christ Cleaned Man's Record of that first Sin. 
Have had issues with people that said man can never be with out sin because of that first sin because you can' get forgiveness for that sin because it wasn't you that did the sin. that is the short of it.            PLEASE ADD YOUR INSIGHT

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Re: Help, Did Jesus totally erase Adam's Sin on all ManKind ?? How?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2011, 05:42:53 PM »
5:12 So then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people 13  because 14  all sinned 5:13 for before the law was given, 15  sin was in the world, but there is no accounting for sin 16  when there is no law. 5:14 Yet death reigned from Adam until Moses even over those who did not sin in the same way that Adam (who is a type 17  of the coming one) transgressed. 18  5:15 But the gracious gift is not like the transgression. 19  For if the many died through the transgression of the one man, 20  how much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one man Jesus Christ multiply to the many! 5:16 And the gift is not like the one who sinned. 21  For judgment, resulting from the one transgression, 22  led to condemnation, but 23  the gracious gift from the many failures 24  led to justification. 5:17 For if, by the transgression of the one man, 25  death reigned through the one, how much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one, Jesus Christ!
5:18 Consequently, 26  just as condemnation 27  for all people 28  came 29  through one transgression, 30  so too through the one righteous act 31  came righteousness leading to life 32  for all people. 5:19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man 33  many 34  were made sinners, so also through the obedience of one man 35  many 36  will be made righteous. 5:20 Now the law came in 37  so that the transgression 38  may increase, but where sin increased, grace multiplied all the more, 5:21 so that just as sin reigned in death, so also grace will reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Re: Help, Did Jesus totally erase Adam's Sin on all ManKind ?? How?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 01:11:11 AM »
Just wondering what version of the bible is the above passages
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Re: Help, Did Jesus totally erase Adam's Sin on all ManKind ?? How?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 02:47:14 AM »
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Re: Help, Did Jesus totally erase Adam's Sin on all ManKind ?? How?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 09:14:23 AM »
I am looking for articles to print out of How Jesus Christ Cleaned Man's Record of that first Sin. 
Have had issues with people that said man can never be with out sin because of that first sin because you can' get forgiveness for that sin because it wasn't you that did the sin. that is the short of it.            PLEASE ADD YOUR INSIGHT

Lee
I think the answer is simple....
Firstly I think sin isn't inherited. If it was how could God be so pleased with for example Job if he had inherited 1000's years of sin.
Secondly sin can't enter heaven. So according to the theory of the people you spoke with nobody will enter heaven. Ever. Maybe only Adam and Eve because it was their own sin.
Thirdly if what those people said is true Jesus must have know it too. Yet he claimed that people will go to heaven.
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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: Help, Did Jesus totally erase Adam's Sin on all ManKind ?? How?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 05:50:52 AM »
Brother, from where God sits right now, we're sin free. Period, end of story. He has separated our sin as "far as the East is from the West", and He "remembers them no more". In Christ, seated with Him, we are without blemish.

However, we have the tendency to judge after the flesh, which Paul tells us explicitly we are not to do. If you look at my flesh, you will indeed see me "missing the mark". However, since we're not to do as such, see me in the Spirit and you see me justified by the work of God through Christ at the cross. That has nothing to do with me, but it has everything to do with Him. Too many people miss that point.

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Re: Help, Did Jesus totally erase Adam's Sin on all ManKind ?? How?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 06:46:48 AM »
Too many people miss that point.
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Re: Help, Did Jesus totally erase Adam's Sin on all ManKind ?? How?
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 05:00:08 PM »
I've said this before but I'll repeat it here as it's directly related to the original question.  Sin isn't the issue, it's merely the symptom.  The problem is spiritual alignment.  When Jesus became the ultimate sacrifice, he "realigned" man's order inwardly so that now, where sin is, grace abounds and that's why our sin is no longer taken into affect.  Not when it comes to final destination.  That's the short version.

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Re: Help, Did Jesus totally erase Adam's Sin on all ManKind ?? How?
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 05:26:23 PM »
Brother, from where God sits right now, we're sin free. Period, end of story. He has separated our sin as "far as the East is from the West", and He "remembers them no more". In Christ, seated with Him, we are without blemish.

However, we have the tendency to judge after the flesh, which Paul tells us explicitly we are not to do. If you look at my flesh, you will indeed see me "missing the mark". However, since we're not to do as such, see me in the Spirit and you see me justified by the work of God through Christ at the cross. That has nothing to do with me, but it has everything to do with Him. Too many people miss that point.

j, good post. This is how I see it as well.  I tend to think that it is a spiritual and physical thing. Spiritually we are sin free but physically we experience sin every day, or should I say sin dwells within us because we are still in the flesh. That is, when you look at the world and see all of the horror and terrible things that people do you know that sin is still in the world. The difference is, sin has no more dominion over us because of Jesus Christ. When God looks at us he sees his Son J Christ. he doesn't see any sin, so spiritually we are sin free.  I think of it like what Paul said about sitting in heaven now, and spiritually we are, but physically we are still here on earth.

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