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WhiteWings:
http://www.1john57.com/universalistfaq.htm
I can't quote the article here because without formatting it's unreadeble.

The article is pointing out contradictions in CLT and other works from Knoch.
As usual the focus is on eon. But this time it's about the number of eons (according to Knoch)

jabcat:
This guy's extremely orthodox conservative.  He has issues with MANY things.  I'd think he very much dislikes Knoch and his translation.  (Isn't he an AV1611 guy?)  

Quoting Gary A and Tony N in this post you posted some time back Tony;

"The Bible speaks of at least 5 "aions" and perhaps many more. If there were "aions" in the past. This must mean that each one of them have ended for they are now past! The New Testament writers spoke of "the present wicked aion" which ended during that very generation. Obviously, it was followed by another "aion"-- the "aion" in which we presently live. If there are "aions" to come, it must mean that this one we live in will also end."


http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=6935.msg77454#msg77454

Pierac:

--- Quote from: WhiteWings on August 09, 2010, 07:21:57 PM ---http://www.1john57.com/universalistfaq.htm
I can't quote the article here because without formatting it's unreadeble.

The article is pointing out contradictions in CLT and other works from Knoch.
As usual the focus is on eon. But this time it's about the number of eons (according to Knoch)

--- End quote ---

Too bad that JOHN WESLEY HANSON eats his lunch!!!  Really... it's embarrassing! 

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Aion_lim.html

Paul

WhiteWings:
James, Paul,

Sure the guy is a devoted KJV-1611 ET. His 'works' have be discussed/refuted earlier on TM.
But I posted this article because it's different from his other stuff.
Surely he starts with saying the KJV translation is perfect. But his focus is on something else in this article.
Basicly his argument is this: (numbers purely as an example)
Knoch speaks of 2 ages between certain events. But Jesus spoke of at least 4 ages.
So Knoch's view on the number ages contradics Jesus. (and his own work)
So according to that guy Knoch isn't only wrong about teh duration of an aion but also about the number of aions in case they exist.
That's how read his article

jabcat:
I tried to find the 4 ages Jesus spoke of in what you posted.  Perhaps in the portion that wouldn't copy/paste?

Showing my ignorance, what did Jesus say about 4 ages and where?  If He said that, and Knoch says 2, then I'd also say Knoch was wrong about that particular thing.

As far as the duration, I'd say Knoch is right and Don Hewey's wrong...again, I like the link to your post of Gary and Tony's on that topic.   :thumbsup:

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