willieH: Hi Theo...
I'm not Paul (obviously!)... but I would like to give you something to think about bro...
Paul, I have been following the posts lately instead of being the posts, because I am perplexed by some of what I am reading. Please indicate if I am misapplying what has been said. One post seems to me to indicate that if I sin it is God's will that I have sinned. Have I misunderstood?
How can something be IN
the Creation of God, and NOT be forthcoming OF HIS WILL?
To assign such means that ..."CLAY" generates the shape it becomes (is becoming) via its own propensity! As an observer of nature, ...what "CLAY" has ever been witnessed "shaping itself" (in a good, bad, ugly or beautiful "manner")?
I might volunteer that this whole "Creation" scenario is being
"PROJECTED" (EXPRESSED) by GOD... to include ALL THINGS which occur IN IT -- which actively -- LIVE
-- the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL...
Like it or not, this observation I offer to you, is made in COMPLETE ALIGNMENT with Eph 1:11
-- as well as is found in alignment with many other verses which speak of MAN and his "doings", as being
DIRECTED by YHVH
-- Rom 9:21 -- Jer 18:4 -- Prov 16:9 -- Jer 10:23 -- Prov 20:24 -- Jer 29:14
Let me begin by saying that the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL which "man" has come to "know" -- Gen 3:22
-- was FIRST
, ...PRIOR to this EXPRESSION (or "PROJECTION"), ...found EXCLUSIVELY within
the heart of YHVH
Which also means that in order for OUR HEARTS to be as IS HIS... then OUR HEARTS must also contain this "KNOWLEDGE"... otherwise His heart would DIFFER from ours...
ALL in ALL... (He does not "need" the manifestation of TIME, which is a "created" entity, in order to BE
-- ANYTHING) GOD is an UNCHANGING being -- Mal 3:6
-- which means that He never, EVER... "becomes" something that He "IS", ...NOT!
Also ...He is ETERNAL which means that "how He IS
", He HAS ALWAYS BEEN ---> IS ---> and ALWAYS WILL BE...
We on the other hand, as we view ourselves within this scenario, are part of a TEMPORAL setting even though we are found within HIM who IS ETERNAL -- Act 17:28
-- and which is UNCHANGING, and which is and remains, PERFECTLY UNALTERED for EVER...
All that said... In HOPES to convey (and IN that process answer your question above), ...here is my observation of the Creation of GOD:
The "Creation" has ALWAYS BEEN... but VEILED to ALL... except YHVH
ALL that occurs in this scenario is the projection
(expression) of that which is IN
the Heart of YHVH
The knowledge of EVIL is simply the "flipside" of the knowledge of GOOD... TOGETHER they are ONE KNOWLEDGE, ...both are necessary that the other be KNOWN for what the other ...IS
... BOTH are FOREVER EXISTENT, ...WITHIN the Heart of YHVH
This "Creation scenario" is an REVELATION of that KNOWLEDGE of G & E, which has ALWAYS BEEN, IS and ALWAYS WILL BE... IOW the Creation never "came into being" it was VEILED to ALL except YHVH
(within the ETERNAL setting.)YHVH
... REVEALING Himself to ALL that is IN HIM, which includes EVERYTHING living WITHIN Him, extensions OF HIM...
This "Creation scenario" will perish from ACTIVITY/practice... but the KNOWLEDGE availed BY IT... forever ...IS... and forever ...WILL BE... and forever ...WAS...
That FINITE vision to a degree, perishes with ETERNAL REVELATION is also, the basis of ALL KNOWLEDGE...
When the "wheel" became known... those LIVING became LARGER by that knowledge. And MANY things were left behind. Such as CARRYING heavy objects from one place to another, or WALKING long distances... CARRYING did not disappear, neither did WALKING... however, the "dealings" with both were forever ALTERED and ENLARGED, by the REVELATION of the knowledge of the WHEEL.
EVIL as a practice shall FINITELY remain in this TEMPORAL historical document we LIVE and KNOW as TIME... within its "portion" of the KNOWLEDGE of GOD... but it's KNOWLEDGE, shall remain FOREVER as the indicator of PRAISE which is given to the GLORY -- that is known as LOVE
and is named, YHVH