willieH: Hi TB...
YOU observe and CLAIM, ...that MAN was created PERFECT and then did IMPERFECT things... Which is NOT what occured.
I on the other hand observe and CLAIM, ...that MAN was created IMPERFECT and then did IMPERFECT things... for what man is, ...is CORRUPT... and he has YET to put on INCORRUPTION -- 1 Cor 15:53-54
YOU are confusing moral corruption with bodily corruption which is common to all flesh, man, beast. bird. fish, whatever. "Putting on incorruption" is simply a euphamism for immortality. Not morality.
:omg: "MORALITY" is not, according to you, ...within
... the "putting on of INCORRUPTION"? Are you serious?FIRST
-- it is NOT WRITTEN (except by YOU), that ADAM was created "PERFECT"... This contention of YOURS, is ABSENT from the WORD
, so it takes an ADDITION by YOU
, TO the WORD
...in order for YOU to establish this UNBIBLICAL belief...SECOND
-- What's new? nothing! ...I disagree with you... You struggle against what is plainly stated, in the name of (fallible) theology and/or, (fallible) religion...1 Cor 15
is so detailed, that it cannot be missed, ...that is unless the heart beholding, just purposes to NOT SEE it... by creating (as "in the case of ADAM" concerning PERFECTION/IMPERFECTION) THAT, which is NOT THERE...
In this answer, ...you attempt to make 2 separate categories ephasized and noted in the WORD
(immortality/morality) of ONE... just as in all likelihood -- [and I could be assuming incorrectly, so please forgive me if I am] -- You observe the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL, as 2 knowledges... when in TRUTH
, ...Good and Evil are TWO sides of the SAME
KNOWLEDGE, rooted in the SAME TREE.
"Immortality" and "morality" are one and the same... holding hands forever... One describes and avails the other... Within ETERNITY as LIFE is found in the ETERNAL state... MORALITY is that which is practiced!
When one [secondly
/SPIRITUALLY -- in DIVINE order] "puts on INCORRUPTION" [adherence to the MORAL/sinless practice of life] this is THAT which begats IMMORTALITY [eternal life] in us while in the SPIRIT --- for [firstly
/NATURALLY -- in DIVINE order] "putting on CORRUPTION" [adherence to the IMMORAL/sinful practice of life] is that which begats MORTALITY [death] in us while in the FLESH...
It is kind of like this bro, ...if we are INSIDE, ...we are NOT, OUTSIDE... and vice versa... If we are heading EAST, we are NOT heading WEST... If we are going UP, we are NOT going DOWN... It really aint that hard, bro...
MORAL CORRUPTION (which is the MIND of the flesh/carnality), is that which is changed to, and "puts on" the "INCORRUPTION" (which is the MIND of CHRIST
/spirituality) spoken of in 1 Cor 15
...1 Cor 15:42-44
-- so also is the resurrection of the dead -- It is SOWN in CORRUPTION, it is RAISED in INCORRUPTION... it is SOWN in DISHONOR, it is RAISED in GLORY, it is SOWN in WEAKNESS it is RAISED in POWER... It is SOWN a NATURAL BODY [flesh] it is RAISED a SPIRITUAL BODY [spirit], there is a NATURAL [corrupt] BODY, and there is a SPIRITUAL [incorrupt] BODY...
Believe what you will, brother Theo... for you are where you are, because God has decided your place... as He has for me and my beliefs, accordingly...
The biggest difference between us, is that I do not have to ADD
to the WORD
in order to faciliate what I believe... and you DO...