willieH: Hi Q, my friend...
It seems I've been talking too loud.
Received an email today from a pastor.
He heard about my spreading of UR and the way ETers were refuted one after the other.
I know him a bit, he has a Master in Philosophy and a Master in Theology. He has written a dozen of books.
Credentials of men (college degrees) pretty much mean nothing, other than a means with which to make MONEY... No offense intended to those who have sacrificed much of their time to better themselves... but in the end, an "education" does not mean that automatically, because you have earned an "education credential" --- you are or will be successful as a part of mankind. Many have taken such "credentials" and become serial killers or inventors of COMPUTER viruses...
A "master's" in Philosophy, means that he has mastered BS
... more than anything.
The flaunting of these "credentials" before you, is only an attempt to overshadow you and lessen you, ...even before any exchange of information has even taken place between you!
Which IMO, is:
- (1) an attempt to use "education" vs. "non-education" as the basis of knowing TRUTH, and not the dedicated pursuit of GOD irregardless of it.
- (2) used to mask inherent insecurities, which are intimidated by your beliefs
- (3) irrelevant in the discussion of the WORD of God, as GOD can inspire and/or withhold TRUTH, irregardless of the possession (or non-possession) of "education" credentials.
And as far this "Pastor" noting the himself as being prolific as a writer, ...Stephen King (no offense intended to him) has written MUCH more than a dozen (1200 page) books of fictional garble, ...which in the end, certainly does not make him more than YOU which might have only "written" a paragraph of TRUTH...
This "Pastor's" dozen books, can easily be filled a lot of hooey instead of TRUTH... That he has busied himself as a writer commenting on what "he" says is truth in them, ...in no way produces him as a bearer of truth, due to the quantity of writings he has produced...
A thousand books which are (potentially) filled with LIES shall never bear TRUTH, just because they are "MANY
commented on DOINGS and SAYINGS
, of the "MANY
" -- Matt 7:22-23 -- Matt 24:5
He sent me this morning a copy in PDF of his latest book on Universalism (only 68 pages).
He thanked me because it was because of me (I say the Lord) that he decided to write it.
Isn't it nice to be inspirational?
Praise the Lord... He is using you!
Now he'd like me to read it and answer it.
Maybe I'll begin writing something myself, if the Lord calls me to it.
Most of his work is about Origen and refuting him. I won't enter that debate because I don't care.
"Refuting" must be done by employing the WORD
... and the addressing of the content of the WORD
is what must occur in any "refute"...
To address an ancient man and his "beliefs" is not addressing what the Scripture says... it is addressing the hearsay
For ORIGEN is quite LARGELY removed from our time, and there is no way of proving any writings about him or the details of his "beliefs", to be FACTUALLY true... so the attempt to refute an ANCIENT... is a foolish exercise in futility.
I wonder if this "Pastor" believes everything written in the Newspapers and books of today? Or everything he hears on TV? Liars have been available since the beginning of time... and FALSE REPORTS have OFTEN originated from them.
But there are other arguments which I know I can defend really well.
I do not have any high education myself, have received the UR revelation only 4 months ago and I'm already busy to no end but by the grace of God I can stand to any theologian because I have the Holy Spirit in me teaching me in everything.
Stay your course, and remain invested in the guidance of the Holy Spirit... remaining open to that guidance. Most (not all) men of education, think they have "arrived" (as "theologians")... and so in that fallible notion, they thereby "write in stone" their beliefs... and eliminate further DIVINE revelation from their experience.
This man is about exalting his own belief over yours, and has already resorted to NAME CALLING you and your beliefs ("heresy"), instead of actually searching for truth and being OPEN TO IT in that search, ...in part by entering in a discussion WITH YOU before such deductions (as "heresy") are declared...
For if one is in a search for TRUTH
, one shall KNOW that he/she shall NEVER KNOW all
of it... therefore, in that search, will ALWAYS have something NEW to learn, which might well compromise the PRIDEFUL "written-in-stone-deduction" of ones own "knowledge" of TRUTH
... at any given time.
In his introduction he said that it was important for PASTORS to know how to refute this heresy because THEY (the pastors) have to defend the faith.
He "begins" by patting himself on his own back, eh?
If I were dealing with this guy, this would be my first brief answer to him:
Where is this written in the WORD
? (that "Pastors" must "defend" the faith)
This man begins by building upon a non-existent foundation, which enters into failure within its very beginning...
There is NO FOUNDATION other than CHRIST
-- 1 Cor 3:11
-- and His "introduction" should have noted THAT
foundation, ...not base the TRUTH on Himself as a "Pastor" which must "defend" the "faith"...
Why should we have to "defend" the faith? If we have TRUTH
, it needs no defense... for it SPEAKS for ITSELF. If you are SPEAKING TRUTH
, no "defense" is necessary. It is those amidst the position of LIES that NEED to "defend" themselves...
He also say that it is theologians' calling to interpret the Scriptures and teach them to the christians.
Again, ...this is written, ...WHERE... in the WORD
? Last time I looked, there is no mention of "theologians" at all, in the Scriptures...
Stealing the HS's job eh?
We're in for major misunderstanding...
Pray for me!
You got it!
Where are "theologians" mentioned in the WORD
? The best version of this "breed" are noted as the "Scribes" and/or "Pharisees"... which were often feeling the brunt of the TRUTH
, knocking them upside their "religious" noggins...
This guy is full of his version (whichever one) of the "Christian religion
"... and has introduced his version of this religion as that which shall REFUTE you... and poor "old" ...ORIGEN...
Hey, if you like, send him my (uneducated) way... I would be more than happy to refute him...